Listen to the story of a remarkable Kentucky woman who served as Social Secretary in the LBJ White House, a job that combines the diplomatic skills of a Secretary of State with the organizational savvy of a wedding planner. Tom Martin talks with Terry Birdwhistell, founding director of the Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History and former Dean of University of Kentucky Libraries, and US Senate Historian Emeritus Donald Ritchie, co-authors of "Washington's Iron Butterfly: Bess Clements Abell, an Oral History."